Wednesday, April 09, 2008

Installation instructions for the 405 Dual Mono Psu

This post explains the installation of the Dada / JPE dual mono power supply for the Quad 405 and 405-2, all models. The PSU and the tools are available in the Ebay Webshop.

Joost & Stefaan

Second introduction and important extra information

This dual mono power supply is a fully functional replacement of the original power supply, but it has a lower crosstalk figure as a result and the elco capacity is being doubled, giving a more stable power supply voltage. In a standard 405 the secondary windings of the transformer are combined to form a single supply. In post 405 amplifiers, like the 606 each channel has its own supply. There are two reasons for this new design. First it is necessary to support the more elaborate protection circuitry in the successors of the 405, second, it lowers the mutual interference of the two channels. By building the amplifier as a four pole device, the channel interference is at its minimum, because there is no common ground plane or wiring, it can/will also reduce earth loops in the feeding cabling systems.

Preparation and beware!

Start with a clean bench and the necessary tools. Although the Psu board is not very sensitive for static electricity, discharge yourself by placing your hands on the bare metal of the chassis before you touch the electronics. Or wear a special bracelet connected to the chassis. Read this instruction before you start working on the amplifier. If you power up the PSU without the amplifier modules, the voltage on the capacitors will be there for a long time! Discharge the elco’s with a bleeder resistance with a value of 1K. In the full floating setup the chassis is not connected to the signal earth anymore. For safety reasons the chassis must be connected to the wall socket or the pre-amp via a power chord with a proper earth connection!


· Philips (Posidriv) no 2 screwdriver
· Soldering iron, 25W, a soldering station with temperature control is the best
· Wire cutters and clippers
· A DC multimeter

Removing parts

For easy access: remove the top, bottom and side plates of the amplifier.
Remove the wiring from the capacitors and the rectifier bridge. Cut the wires where they are entering the cable beam. Remove the capacitors and the clips. Remove the Rectifier bridge. Remove all wires from the secondary windings of the transformer, leave the blank connecting wires in place on each secondary winding. Also remove the wires to the negative (black) speaker terminals.

Mounting the Psu in the chassis

Place the plastic self adhesive feet in the corresponding holes. Clean the area where the feet are to be placed with a solvent. Mount the board after the wires are soldered to the connecting pins, by removing the protective tape. and push the board firmly in position. You can always remove the board from the pins. Before final installation, test the placement procedure with the protective tape still in place.

Basic wiring

In this setup we only implement the power supply as a dual supply. The Din connector and the earth connection at that point will stay in place. For Quad 405-2’s with factory fitted cinch connectors: read the following paragraph. If you use additional cinch connectors, connect the signal ground to the earth point of the Din chassis part. Also reuse the earth connecting point at the location of the old rectifier bridge. Connect the wires as shown in the diagram. Start with the wires on the Psu, place the Psu in the chassis and connect the other wires. Also connect the two wires leading to the led on the two led pins on the Psu. Because there is already a series resistor on the Psu for the led, short circuit the resistor on the small Pcb underneath the amplifier. Or replace the resistor on the PSU by a wire link, and leave the resistor on the small Pcb underneath the amplifier in its original state. Both PSU’s have there own led connections, so if you wish you can connect a second led.

Building a floating amplifier, for the advanced DIY user!

To gain full benefit of the double supply, a more complicated route has to be followed. The chassis to earth connection on the Din connector should be removed. Also a new central "earth" point on each amplifier module is necessary. This is created by removing the centre screw on the heat sink, use a special transistor isolation washer (on the heatsink side) and a new bolt and nut, M3x15 (all from a TO220 transistor mounting kit) between the head or the nut (depending of the way the bolt is inserted) and the heat sink. Use a copper or steel washer on the PCB side to ensure a good contact. In this way we can connect wires to this point without making any contact with the heat sink and the chassis. Or solder the wires to the copper side of the module. For best results we only use the isolated cinch connectors and remove the wiring from the Din connector. If you have to use the facilities of the Din connector use the spare pin for a second signal earth connection.
In all Pcb's prior to M12565 issue 3 (serial number 1 to 50000) there is a serious layout problem, the signal (input) ground must be connected to the output ground, in this case our new created "earth" point, or R2 replaced by a wire bridge! See also the "Hum" post and comments.

Quad 405-2 with standard factory fitted cinch connectors. Serial 85000 and higher

Keith Snook mentioned high values of the DC offset on the speaker output terminals with late versions of the 405-2 with the standard isolated Cinch connectors. This problem is the result of the mixed use of signal earth and chassis earth to connect components on the Pcb. Between those two "earth" connections a resistor R2 with a value of 10 Ohm is placed. In the Quads with a Din connector those resistors are effectively short circuited by connecting the signal ground to the chassis. In the Quads with the cinch connectors R2 is not short circuited anymore, in real life, the problem Keith mentioned is smaller when you use a preamp with a common signal ground (as most of us do), the two R2 resistors of both channels are now in parallel, so the value is halved. But the two channels now have shared components, bad news for channel separation! The second action to be taken to minimize the problem: use a power cord to the 405 with an earth connection from the preamp. The voltage difference across R2 should be very low, only depending on the resistance of the wires of the cables. But if you want top performance, every detail counts! Why Quad did change the layout? In an all Quad system (34 or 44 connected to a 405), a hum loop can be introduced, depending on length and routing of the cables, because of the use of cinch cables and an earth connection, via the power cord from the preamp to the chassis of the 405. In the early DIN days the Power Amp was earthed via the signal cable, see also the connection between a 33 and a 303.

How does this relate to our double PSU? Basic or floating?

If you don’t experience any hum loops in your current system, in the basic wiring setup: connect the signal ground of the Cinch chassis parts to the chassis, as was the case with the Din connector. If there is a hum loop, solve this one in the power cord of the 405 by disconecting the earth wire at the 405 side. Is illegal in some countries! See the "Hum" post.

In floating mode, there are two solutions, first connect extra wires from the signal ground connection of the cinch chassis part of each channel to the new central earth point on the corresponding modules, in effect short circuit R2, or replace R2 by a wire link. The latter is the best and more elegant solution in my view. These solutions can also be aplied to the basic wiring setup, but it is not so basic anymore.

If a connection between the amplifier ground and the chassis is necessary, build it like Quad did in the 606. Use a separate 10 Ohm resistor with a small capacitor (4n7) in parallel to connect the Psu ground to the chassis.

Checks before and after switching on the amplifier

Connect the amplifier to the mains socket. On the red wire there should be 50V referring to the chassis or the module earth point. On the black wire there should be -50V. If you installed the Psu as a fully floating device, before switching on, check whit an ohm meter that there is no connection between one of the green wires and the chassis. Also check that there is no connection between the green wires of the two channels.

Appendix 1 Basic wiring
Appendix 2 Fully isolated wiring


Anonymous Anonymous said...

Does your PSU work allow the 120V/110 V switch on the back to still work for us North Americans?


1:57 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi! I read with keen interest regarding the floating earth connections. I have 2 questions I hope you can help answer:

If I understand correctly, all the transformer secondary links must first be removed. Please correct me if I am wrong.

How to wire the mass connection of a Velleman K4700 loudspeaker protection module and still maintain isolation of the earth connection betweem the left and right amplifier channels?

Regards Peter

11:42 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Does 'cinch connectors' mean RCA sockets?

5:36 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Use of floating earth with non-original transformers and psu's.

Hello Peter,

Thank you for this, very interesting article. I have 405-IIs modded with many of the available suggetsions, but they still have signal ground throgh the chassis. I now have two, single secondary + centre tap toroidals and two independent psu's which I would like to use with the boards. I want to be sure that I don't make anything smoke by forcing power earth to go the signal route when isolating the heatsink from signal ground. In your older pages I'm sure I saw a different (step by step) guide to making the floating arrangement. Can you point me to any other resources?

2:01 PM  

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